Hungary’s Orbán Warns Of End EU And Expects Peace In Ukraine Soon (Worthy News In-Depth)

By Stefan J. Bos, Chief International Correspondent Worthy News
DUBAI/BUDAPEST (Worthy News) – Hungary’s powerful prime minister has warned that the European Union will collapse by 2029 unless it reinvents itself and said he expects a “permanent” peace solution for wartorn Ukraine within six months “or even earlier.”
Viktor Orbán, who has ruled Hungary continuously since 2010, spoke this weekend with U.S. television host Tucker Carlson at the World Governments Summit (WGS) in Dubai.
He accused the EU’s executive European Commission of taking power away from democratically elected European prime ministers and enforcing controversial policies ranging from the “Green Deal” on climate change to warmongering.
“Unless the EU makes some drastic decisions within 3 to 4 years, due to high energy prices, businesses will not be able to remain competitive, capital will withdraw from the region, and the community will fall apart,” he warned in comments shared with Worthy News.
He also clarified that EU member Hungary “will seek to conclude a good deal with Washington for itself, regardless of whether the European Union exists or not.”
Orbán criticized the EU over its policies toward Russia and Ukraine, recalling that he was “the only one who said that the European Union mustn’t become drawn into this war.”
Next, “the peace camp was joined by Slovakia and the Vatican, and most recently by U.S. President Donald Trump, and from here on this is a new chapter,” he stressed.
SAME LOGIC
The prime minister added that Trump follows the same logic Hungary proposed in the past three years by seeking peace.
When asked if Ukraine and Russia can reach “a permanent [peace] resolution” within six months, Orbán answered: “Yes, yes, definitely, even earlier. Yeah, yeah, I think so. You know [there are] serious guys. So, strong men make peace; weak men make war. That is so simple. Now we have strong leaders.”
Orbán, 61, dismissed claims he was “Russian President Vladimir Putin’s puppet” but said if he were to take critics seriously, he would say that rather “than pro-Putin,” he was “pro-Hungarian.”
“First of all, my duty is to serve my nation. Secondly, we have experience with the Russians, it wasn’t a pleasant period,” he said. Orbán indirectly referred to decades of occupation by Russian troops and their allies and the 1956 Revolution for freedom, which Moscow crushed.
“Hungary was always compelled to struggle among three major power centers: Berlin, Istanbul, and Moscow. Each one of them occupied Hungary at least once, the Russians three times. In the place where Hungary is, these are the options to choose from,” he added.
“When I returned to government in 2010” after a previous stint as prime minister followed by years in the opposition, “I agreed with President Putin to leave what happened between the two countries in the past to historians.”
He added that they agreed “to develop reasonable cooperation and economic relations from then on. As good relations as possible. And that’s how it was, it works, and the Russians kept their word. Whatever Putin promised, he delivered. And I did the same.”
‘NOT DESTRUCTIVE’
So, “my approach to the Russians is not as negative, as destructive as that of many Western leaders today,” Orbán told Tucker and the audience.
He observed that he had always believed that the war in Ukraine, which broke out after Russia launched a full-scale invasion in February 2022, “was not about Ukraine, but about the enlargement” of the NATO military alliance.
The war “broke out because Russia occupied a part of Ukraine to prevent Ukraine’s NATO membership,” he said.
“Also back then, I told my colleagues that we must isolate this conflict as much and as swiftly as possible, or else this conflict will spread, will consume ever more money, and will claim ever more victims,” Orbán explained.
“When two Slavic peoples are at war with one another, that is a serious affair because they are both militant. The war must be stopped because the number of casualties will only rise,” he exclaimed, adding concern “about widows of hundreds of thousands” of killed soldiers.
“However, the Western strategy is that the killing should last as long as it takes,” Orbán complained.
Although he remains “optimistic” about a peace deal, he cautioned that if “President Trump fails to find a solution to ending the war, Ukraine could easily become the Afghanistan of the European Union, and this could even destroy the EU itself.”
CHALLENGES AHEAD
He said Trump faces a formidable task to convince Russia to stop the war in a way that allows them to believe that they won.
“As regards Ukraine and its president, first of all, what they have done and are doing is heroic; there is no question about that, despite the mistakes they have made. Secondly, I believe they misunderstood the West’s intentions,” Orbán claimed.
“They [Ukraine] thought that the West would always support them. Following this, they don’t behave as they should in their position. If someone is in grave trouble, they need help, and if they ask for help, they should do so using the appropriate tone. But it was a mistake on their part to presume that the West would always support them,” Orbán pointed out.
“I was sure that this support would come to an end, the war would come to an end sooner or later, and Ukraine would be left on its own. Whatever the losses are, now is the right time for peace. We cannot risk a World War III.”
However, Orbán cautioned that “it is not enough” that Washington made clear Ukraine won’t join NATO” as “Europe there is still a Liberal opinion dictatorship. This has such a powerful impact on leaders that they now all think virtually the same way,” meaning that at whatever cost, “Europe must support Ukraine and Ukraine must join NATO.”
Orbán said, however, that ” the time will come—once they realize that there are changes in the world—when they change their principles.“
Yet, “it’s difficult to achieve change with the incumbent European leadership,” Orbán complained.
LIBERAL HEADWIND
Orbán also noticed that “For 15 years Hungary has been working in the “Liberal headwind” to “stop migration, to defend traditional values, to respect religious communities and to keep taxes low.”
He said his measures were regarded as “unorthodox” by the Liberals who Orbán claims run the EU and its institutions.
Orbán, who claims to be a conservative Christian politician, also stressed that the “Western Liberal elite” had used the money of American taxpayers to promote its ideology in the world.
In Hungary alone, they sponsored more than 60 non-governmental organizations (NGOs) and funded media, “which was a conspiracy against our sovereignty and independence,” Orbán added.
He accused Brussels of “doing the same, which was even more shocking, given that we ourselves contributed to the EU budget, and they supported our enemies from that money.”
Orbán, whose government was criticized for closing or taking over independent media, said there was “the global liberal deep state, and now we see how it worked.”
He accused the U.S. Democrats of wanting to replace “governments which insisted on preserving their sovereignty and stood up for themselves.”
EUROPEAN LEFT
At the same time, “the leaders of the Western European Left are genuinely convinced that if they let immigrants belonging to the Muslim faith in the majority into traditionally Christian societies, the result of this process of integration will be a better and happier society,” Orbán told the WGS in Dubai, a predominantly society.
He said the Liberal globalized agenda was driven by Hungary-born U.S. billionaire George Soros, who promoted “letting in of a million immigrants a year into Europe. The Hungarian position has always been that the decision on this issue must remain within national competence.”
Orbán said Hungary “never wanted to lecture anyone about how to build a better society. It is a key development that Donald Trump has changed political thinking in the West, including on the issues of migration and the Green Deal” as “economic competitiveness comes first, and green issues can only come second after competitiveness.”
The Hungarian leader, who has a close relationship with Trump, said he feels encouraged that the new administration takes Christian faith and traditional values seriously. “Earlier, the message was that Christianity is something medieval, while today it is acknowledged that religious communities must be respected; earlier, the established view in the West regarding families was that the institution of the family had become dated and people should live together in different configurations, but now this has changed, too,” Orbán noticed.
“Today, everyone openly says regarding the mad gender propaganda that it is not right, while in the context of the war in Ukraine, not so long ago, those who wanted peace were bad and those who wanted war were good, but today, the reverse is true.”
The prime minister said, “The left-wing Liberal community looked upon its own civilization as something evil. Rather than wanting to make it stronger, they wanted to improve it by destroying it, which is a truly communist idea.”
However, he observed that “this community did not love its nation; at times, they were even ashamed of belonging to a nation and regarded anyone who was proud of their nation and believed that they had to work for the nation as Nazi and far-right.”
CHRISTIAN RADICAL
In their view, “I’m a Fascist, a medieval, feudal, Christian radical, which is absurd,” Orbán said, adding that the elite is often not prepared to accept the clear will of the electorate.
“Today, the majority rejects mass migration, but the elite is finding it difficult to change its position, and this is putting pressure on democracy.”
Regarding the economy, he observed that 30 years ago, the EU had “been the world’s largest economy, while today it is only in third place.”
There is “not a single European among the world’s five largest economies. The success of the EU has always been closely linked to the success of the German economy, and as they are struggling now, so are we,” he said.
The reason for this is “that the German and European economies had a well-functioning structural model based on a combination of cheap Russian energy and advanced European technologies, and this resulted in competitiveness. Due to the war in Ukraine, we have isolated ourselves from cheap energy, and we have no new strategy about how to become competitive again.”
However, “there are no ideas, there are no visions,” he explained.
The new “U.S. leadership is thinking in terms of the triangle of Europe, China, and the United States. [Therefore] it would be important for Europe to stop sitting idly and to start coming up with ideas and proposals about how to change the present imbalance in trade. If we fail to do so, we will be compelled to deal with tariffs,” and a Europe without the EU, he observed.
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